Inside Local News: Tiffany Salameh on Journalism, AI & Trust in Media

Hometown Jax is all about the people who keep Jacksonville moving—business owners, professionals, and community leaders who show up every day to make a difference. Hosted by Jason Kindler, each episode dives into the real stories behind the work—uncovering the challenges, pivots, and passion that fuel success in Northeast Florida. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a creative, or just someone who loves hearing how others overcome obstacles, this podcast is your front-row seat to the heartbeat of Jacksonville.

In this episode, Jason sits down with News4JAX reporter Tiffany Salameh to explore her journey from a Jacksonville native to a trusted voice in local news. Tiffany shares how an unexpected start in high school journalism shaped her career, what it really takes to work in a fast-paced newsroom, and how the media landscape has evolved in the age of social media and AI. From uncovering scams and helping real people get justice to breaking down misconceptions about the news industry, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it means to report the truth—and why local journalism matters now more than ever.

Transcript

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Welcome to hometown Jackson. Today, I've got someone very special here with me. Tiffany Salem with news four. Jax. Thanks for having me. Oh my gosh. So normally the the the script is flipped 100%, so I'm so nervous today I'm like oh my gosh. Oh my gosh I'm I'm interviewing the pro. Yeah. But you should have this down because I interview you.

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So all you know what I it's that's fair. That's that's a fair point. So let's get into it. Hometown. Jax. We like to, to feature people that are part of our community that make our community run. And you are definitely one of those people. So, let's get to know each other. I appreciate our viewers and and everything.

00;00;58;17 - 00;01;29;28
Unknown
So, the first thing is. So where did you grow up? Right here in Jacksonville. Good old I knew it. So you went to. You went to Mandarin High? Yep. Okay. And Greenland Pines. So. Okay. So you are a native Jacksonville person. That is. Right. And so, the the city has changed quite a bit. Oh, 100%. I mean, even just growing up in Mandarin to seeing to where it is now and like, oh my gosh, I remember we lived like, in a little subdivision.

00;01;30;00 - 00;01;48;08
Unknown
This is old Saint Augustine Road, by the way, and I'm calling it like a little subdivision. I mean, the road was like two lanes and there was like horse farms really all next to us. Yeah. And now there's like, a Publix every half a mile. Yeah. And that's not. That's not that long ago. No, it wasn't, I mean, let's say maybe 20, 25 years ago.

00;01;48;08 - 00;02;08;19
Unknown
Yeah. That's not that's not very long. So. But you have not been in Jacksonville, you know, for your entire entire life, right? You had a you had a little hiatus. Yeah. I decided to try the Midwest out for a little bit, and then I came right back. You did? How long were you in the Midwest? 5 or 6 years I spent there.

00;02;08;19 - 00;02;31;26
Unknown
And that was like, in South Bend, Indiana. So usually when people ask me, where is that? I just her name, Notre Dame. Yeah. It's all you need to know. Yeah, but it's it was a pretty cool place to be for my first, news job. Yeah. You know, usually a lot of people don't know this, but, when you get your start in the news world, you usually have to go to what they call a small market, or rather, a small town.

00;02;31;29 - 00;02;54;05
Unknown
You can't just get on the airwaves in Jacksonville or Orlando. Like, it doesn't work like that. Yeah. You got to like, work your way up and put in your time, put in your time, make your mistakes in that small market so that you know you're not making them here because you get fired if you meet them here. But anyway, that was really fun to just pack my bags, and I did not know how cold it would be.

00;02;54;05 - 00;03;12;18
Unknown
Honestly, I thought I knew, but you you you got a call and you were like, okay, I got to do it. Yeah. So I posted a reel on YouTube. So it was kind of like a montage of some of my news work. Oh, that's cool. And fun fact. I interned at news for Jackson. Yeah, in college. So a lot of my clips are from news four.

00;03;12;18 - 00;03;33;19
Unknown
Jax on my like, oh, that's funny. First I think it was like 2017 and Muriel yeah, I didn't even apply to this job. Like they just saw me on YouTube and were like, hey, you want to come work for us? The power of social media isn't that crazy? It is. Yeah. So in the news world and I had applied for like dozens of jobs to.

00;03;33;19 - 00;03;56;13
Unknown
Yeah, but this one was just, like, so attractive to me because I was like, well, first of all, Notre Dame was there. And I was like, that's cool. Yeah, it was right outside Chicago. Yeah, Lake Michigan was there. So I was like, I think I can make that work versus some of the other offers I was considering as my first new job was like Utah, Idaho, there wasn't much close to Chicago.

00;03;56;19 - 00;04;17;06
Unknown
Yeah, exactly. So that's that that was a selling point. Plus the salary was pretty decent. Oh, good. For, for living in Indiana, you know what I mean? Yeah, you. I think I got the same salary offer somewhere, like on the coast of California, but total difference. That would not have taken me a long way. Yeah, you would have been bunking up.

00;04;17;08 - 00;04;41;29
Unknown
And my dad called me crazy, by the way. Oh. Did he, when he heard how much money I was making, he was like, you're going to leave for that? And I was like, you just don't get it yet. It's my passion. It's like. It's like an extended internship. Okay? That very interesting. That's cool. So how does one even say, like, was this, like, a lifelong dream to be on the news?

00;04;42;01 - 00;05;03;25
Unknown
So, like, unfortunately, yes. Or fortunately, the cliche story of like, yeah, I wanted to do this for forever. I always read the newspaper with my grandpa. Okay? And my family is actually big news. Four Jax watchers. Yeah, my dad is literally always watching the news. I have a whole stock like that. That's enough. So,

00;05;03;28 - 00;05;27;20
Unknown
That's funny. He's watching the reruns. Yeah, exactly. And, like, all the talk shows. I mean, I feel like his head is going to explode from all the info he consumes. So maybe that's where I get it from. But Amanda and I, class of 2014, go, Mustangs. I got in trouble, actually, in school, this was like a chance happening.

00;05;27;22 - 00;05;49;15
Unknown
I don't think I was ever serious about my career at this point. I was maybe like a freshman or sophomore in high school, and I got in trouble, kicked out of gym class. I will not elaborate, but come on, think anybody wants to know? They put me in journalism class and I was like, whatever. This sucks.

00;05;49;18 - 00;06;13;14
Unknown
I had a bad attitude at that time in my life, and, I always enjoyed reading and writing. So, you know, I'm doing the assignments. I'm probably giving it, like half effort and the teacher approached me and she's like, hey, do you know, I'm really good at this? Oh, and that was like, ego boost. But it was it was actually that teacher that inspired me to be a journalist.

00;06;13;14 - 00;06;35;21
Unknown
She was a TV reporter herself. And she started telling me, you know, like, you're pretty natural at this. Like, what do you think about, helping me start the school newspaper? Really? Yeah. So Mandarin didn't have a school newspaper, so I helped her start the Mandarin Times, and, is the Mandarin. Time still is, but I'm pretty sure it's still around.

00;06;35;21 - 00;06;58;04
Unknown
But, like, I was part of the foundation. Started the Mandarin Times. That's a paper. Yeah. So it's like it was pretty, I mean, what else could I do with my career? That's fun, you know? And I did enjoy it. And, when I went on to college, I got involved at their local paper, which was a UNF spinnaker swoop.

00;06;58;06 - 00;07;21;29
Unknown
I'm like, so local. You said. I was just saying, like. Like out of all of our gas, like, you're like, I'm like, you're like, so local. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. And then it just kind of like, snowballed from there. I was always terrified of being on TV, really, believe it or not. Like, I just wanted to work a little desk job and write for the newspaper, you know, like, take my coffee and my notebook, and.

00;07;22;01 - 00;07;48;24
Unknown
But, I had a advisor in college who was like, get real. You have a face for TV. And I was like, no, I don't. And she was like, yeah, you know. And she's like, and newspapers are dying, so you need to get with the program and start, you know, thinking about it, your in TV news and so it sounds like you had a couple people that 100 mentors and like you can dial back on that.

00;07;48;24 - 00;08;10;23
Unknown
That's so yeah it is cool and not everyone has that. I'm so in touch with them today. That's awesome. Yeah. So the advisor of my college newspaper was actually the former news director at news four. Jax. Wow. So, and then the journalism teacher from high school, she was a former reporter. And, like, I want to say South Florida.

00;08;10;25 - 00;08;32;13
Unknown
I think she retired from teaching now. But I'm still in touch with her, too. She's like, it's so cool you're on TV. And I'm like, I guess it is kind of cool. But it really was those people who inspired me and told me, you know, like, you are good at this. You are capable because, like, I feel like I always doubted myself, especially for a job that's like so forward facing on camera.

00;08;32;15 - 00;08;56;15
Unknown
It is isn't especially that that age to like, oh like like I mean, you know, it's like, oh my God. I remember going to my internship at news four Jax, which is pretty important. When you're studying, studying journalism because you have, you know, you have this idea of how the news works, and then you see it happen and you're like, whoa, I was not ready for that.

00;08;56;15 - 00;09;17;21
Unknown
That's crazy. I mean, like, it happens at lightning speed. So I was just like, pretty quiet. You can ask some of the, older reporters who work at news four. Jax. They still remember me like it used to be so quiet, like I was scared of y'all. Yeah, but I just sat in the back of the car, watched them do their stories, ask them questions, and.

00;09;17;24 - 00;09;48;01
Unknown
Yeah, that's really cool. I really like this. Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. So, so then you go to South Bend. Right. How do you get how do you get back to Jacksonville. Oh decide to come. Was it was it kind of. Yeah I mean after a few years in Indiana I had to like face like a question like so I had gone from being a general assignment reporter MJ got which by the way stands for Multimedia journalist.

00;09;48;04 - 00;10;23;19
Unknown
So I did everything myself. My own cameraman, set up my own stories, edited my own stories, did my own live shots. I mean, like they were getting their money's worth. I yeah, we call it one man banding and ended up going from an MJ to an investigative reporter to the main anchor at the desk. And I felt like when I was at the desk, I wasn't happy because I was kind of stuck there, in the office during the five, six, ten and 11:00 news.

00;10;23;19 - 00;10;48;06
Unknown
What is that? Let's stop there real quick. Yeah. So like obviously as a yeah, as a person, you see it in the in you're, you're watching. But how quick does that like like I mean I feel like the. Yeah. Like you don't have time to react like you're just kind of 100%. So like, the, main anchor working night side, we call it, you come in about 2 or 230.

00;10;48;08 - 00;11;09;08
Unknown
Show starts at five. So ahead of that you have executive producers and producers who have been working on the shows all day long since about 9 a.m., you know, they're producing the newscasts, and the reporters also come in at 9 a.m., and they are also producing content for the newscast. So we're like the original influencers. Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah.

00;11;09;08 - 00;11;32;19
Unknown
And it happened fast. You know, like reporters are getting out the door by 10 a.m., going to record their interviews and write some scripts for the newscast. But, you know, there is such a negative connotation sometimes with media like, don't trust the media like we don't, you know, we don't know. They're just lying to us. They're paid for their bought and paid for.

00;11;32;21 - 00;11;55;00
Unknown
And that's crazy to me. As someone who's worked in local newsrooms for eight years, because it is local people who are producing that news for you, you know what I mean? And no one is paying us. I wish they were like, oh, well, that's an interesting really just passion. Yeah, that drives it. And it does happen fast because let's say news breaks at 430, we have to throw away the whole show.

00;11;55;03 - 00;12;13;07
Unknown
You know what I mean? So from top down and then you have. Yeah. Because because then of course there's competition 100%. Right. So it's like who's going to who's going to report it first. Yeah. So let's say a prominent figure dies at 430. We are not leading our newscast at five with some charity giveaway. Yeah. You know what I mean.

00;12;13;09 - 00;12;34;20
Unknown
Maybe two hours ago we would have done that. But you know, things change and news breaks and it happens fast. And you and you have to you got to be on point. You you've got to you've got to and you know, everyone can be a journalist these days. You have a phone. Sure. You get on there, you record your selfies and you actually do share news.

00;12;34;20 - 00;13;00;29
Unknown
Yeah. You know what I mean? But, credible journalists have education. We have a background. We know, to check our sources. We're verifying things. We're not just sharing things that have not been vetted. This is so good because obviously in, you know, and I'm not going to say mainstream. I'm not to say like social media were like, but it's like, you know, the news, like there's so many stories, there's so many things.

00;13;00;29 - 00;13;25;03
Unknown
Yeah. So I love the fact that we're that you've said this and it's like, no, it is. We're, we're we're vetting this. We're making sure that it's there is real value in local news. And, you know, if you're going to watch any type of news, it should be local. Because that is going to be the most authentic and it it really is like a passion project for so many people.

00;13;25;03 - 00;13;49;09
Unknown
We don't do this because we're making, you know, millions of dollars. We do it because we care about informing our community. Yeah. I could say that about like 100% of the people in our newsroom locally, and of course, just 100%, 100%. So of course, there are critics. But it is interesting how the news cycle and news has changed with social media, because there's a lot of misinformation online.

00;13;49;12 - 00;14;12;10
Unknown
You know what I mean? There was just a shooting, outside of TPC on Saturday. Was it I mean, people can get online and say, look what's happening this, this and this happened. And that might be valuable to an extent. But, you know, we have sources with the police department. We're actually getting the press releases, the verified information that we are sharing.

00;14;12;10 - 00;14;39;06
Unknown
We're not just sharing. You know, of course, a certain part of it is eyewitness News. Yeah. What you're seeing. But, majority of it is, you know, your sources and your credibility. So I would say like, like just take, take that one not to go into the story, but I was just scrolling this morning on Facebook and it there were so many different stories and opinions and like, if I was just looking at social media, I wouldn't know what to think.

00;14;39;11 - 00;15;04;17
Unknown
Yeah. About that particular story. You know, that's a good point. Social media will put you in a bubble too, so you only see the opinions you agree with and not like the viewpoints you know of people from different races, different backgrounds, different education, you know, and that's sort of what the news, local news at least will strive to do is to give you an unbiased opinion.

00;15;04;17 - 00;15;28;18
Unknown
You know, where you're getting information from both sides. So, you know, if someone's running for governor, let's say, you know, we're going to get both sides. Yeah, this is why they're running. And this is why the other side's running. This is what both of them say. So you can form an opinion on your own. I mean, that's what that's what every local news station is trying to do is just present the facts.

00;15;28;20 - 00;15;51;08
Unknown
I am so going to be on the news every single day, like you're going to be Tuesday. But it's but it is. That's a that's a really good point that I don't think a lot of people think about is like if there's no agenda. Right. Because all we hear is a lot of agendas. Right. But if there's no agenda you do have both sides.

00;15;51;13 - 00;16;15;15
Unknown
Yeah you do. Right. So you're actually going back. You know I believe like when, when you know I was growing up it was like okay, the news was your facts source was that. And now there's hundreds of them. Yes. That is overwhelming. Yes. That is overwhelming. So Newsfourjax, we're we're we're we're giving it we're giving both sides. I mean, we're really just hyperlocal and we are independent, by the way.

00;16;15;15 - 00;16;34;25
Unknown
Like not owned by a Fox or an ABC. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. And we're one of the few independent stations in the country. And Jack small has a big taste for news, which is why we were so successful when we first started. And to go back to your earlier question, how did you get back here?

00;16;34;26 - 00;16;49;25
Unknown
Yeah, I it was just it was a dream. I saw how they worked when I was in college, and I admired those people so, so hard. And now I was like, I am going to at some point in my career, work at Newsfourjax. So, yeah.

00;16;49;28 - 00;17;10;19
Unknown
so with the news, I know, you know, we we met I think a couple of years ago, but I was, I was thinking to myself, I'm like, in the busy, you know, world, of social media and everything like that. Like, how are people tuning in? I'm like, how people aren't really tuning in.

00;17;10;19 - 00;17;34;21
Unknown
Right? But then you introduced me to, oh, no, there's streaming, there's social media and news for Jax doesn't unbelievable job on social media. So kind of if you could just take us through like, yeah, there's there's where it used to be just what was on television. Now that's what does that look like now? Like like what a question, Jason, I thought you.

00;17;34;24 - 00;18;00;16
Unknown
Oh, good. So, Yeah, I mean, even when I started years ago, it was different than how it is today. Yeah. You were only worrying about your television product. What goes on? The news comes first. Absolutely. We would have a website, right? But, I mean, something could happen at noon and it wouldn't get posted online till, like, 6 or 7:00.

00;18;00;16 - 00;18;19;03
Unknown
Yeah. And who's that helping? Yeah. It's crazy now, like, something happens and we do have a team of web producers and journalists who are like, oh, we're getting this on the line immediately. You know, court cases are happening. We're sharing that, we know the governor is going to be holding a press conference in Saint Augustine.

00;18;19;03 - 00;18;40;11
Unknown
We're sharing that like almost immediately, in the form of, like, news articles. Yeah. And then social media is interesting because now, as a reporter, we have been asked to tailor how we do things. Hey, maybe don't worry about TV first. Why don't you worry about that social media? Because you really do reach a lot of people there.

00;18;40;11 - 00;19;00;14
Unknown
Yeah. And it might be a different person than you reach on TV. Sure. You know, it could be. Is someone younger, someone who just doesn't have the time to sit in front of the TV for hours a day and watch the news. So, yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I've I know I've done it myself where I'm like, okay, I'm just going to go to news four.

00;19;00;14 - 00;19;17;21
Unknown
Jax go to the stories and like just pop up, pop up. Let's let me just kind of get an idea what's going on. Yeah, there's dozens of people. Yeah, that are helping to do that because, Yeah, it's not antiquated anymore where, you know, it was on the news at six, it happened at 10 a.m. and then, you know, you'll see it maybe next morning.

00;19;17;23 - 00;19;41;15
Unknown
Yeah. It's it's getting done fast. Yeah. I know the, the, the even on the website like the website stuff it when I go to, you know, news four Jax it's like boom boom. Yeah. Like it's quick. We're working. Yeah. We're working hard. Yeah I see that. But yeah, it is super interesting as a reporter, you know, because people have been doing this for decades, right?

00;19;41;15 - 00;20;10;07
Unknown
I mean, TV news has a style. It has like a purpose. You know, you get the big stick mix, you got the standard live shots. But I feel like, local news is transforming, you know, to be a little bit more creative, a little bit more, authentic, really, where you're sharing question and answers and raw interviews and, you know, you have just a reporter talking on a selfie video telling you what's going on.

00;20;10;09 - 00;20;33;07
Unknown
And that really didn't used to happen. Yeah. No, I mean, it it had to be. It had to be I mean just, you know, in in any business right now, like you know, with, with our company, like we, we have a huge social media presence. Isn't that crazy? I mean, you know, we have nothing to do with social media, but it is.

00;20;33;07 - 00;21;01;19
Unknown
But it's what it is. People are. It's everything. It really is. So it's interesting. I love I've always had a passion for media. Right. And now I feel like everyone's catching on. Yeah, yeah. Social media and news for answers. All of it. Yeah. And news for Jax. I mean, you, you know, as far as locally. I mean, you guys dominate, you know, on the, on the, on the social medias, we are, we have been doing it a long time.

00;21;01;19 - 00;21;25;07
Unknown
Yeah. Social media probably more so than our competitors have been. And we might have even been the first in the country to like say, hey, we got to be on social media, you know, do you think that has to do with potentially being independent? And maybe it could. Yeah. Yeah it could, it could because we do have, you know, a lot more leniency and let's say like creative freedom.

00;21;25;07 - 00;21;47;26
Unknown
Yeah. But I really think it's just the talented people we have working there who recognize social media is where we need to jump in or, you know, still keep, you know, still have the traditional news is a medium, but you're, you're branching out to. Yeah, we're people are people everywhere else. And the streaming is interesting too. Yeah. You know, like you don't have cable.

00;21;47;26 - 00;22;09;08
Unknown
No problem. You know, just stream it on our app, which is cool, you know, like it's really cool. Yeah, yeah. And, we're even expanding from traditional newscasts to streaming newscasts only where, like, you won't be able to watch it on cable. You actually will only be able to watch it online. And it's more of a podcast style.

00;22;09;08 - 00;22;29;20
Unknown
I'd say, like a longer conversation versus like 30s of this happened and then this happened. You know, it's like, let's let it breathe. Let's let these stories have some time because you don't always get time. No, no. And it's it's funny you brought that up because when, when you were talking before, I was thinking about just where things have gone in, in media.

00;22;29;20 - 00;22;55;09
Unknown
Right. So if you think about a podcast, right, podcasts like there are some podcasts that I will sit and, you know, if I'm on a road trip or something I will listen to for three hours. Wow. Like oppressive. Yeah. Like not yeah. Not every day. But like, I think people are consuming that type of content. Yeah. To where, you know, it's a lot longer, whereas the news is, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00;22;55;09 - 00;23;16;26
Unknown
Well, I think that's pretty cool. It is cool. I think podcasts and documentaries are definitely like influencing the news industry because they are widely successful. Yeah. But at the same time, you have these reels and TikToks that are like 10s, you can barely hold attention. You were fighting with that. Do you know total how how long can I keep someone interested in my story?

00;23;16;26 - 00;23;33;10
Unknown
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's like an A and even on the scroll, like, am I going to even get them to stop? I know like how do you, how do you put that. So yeah that's a, that's a whole it's a whole different world. I know anyone who you know creates content is on social media understands that struggle.

00;23;33;10 - 00;23;35;03
Unknown
So. Yeah, totally.

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00;24;05;25 - 00;24;26;28
Unknown
For me personally, I'm know about you. I mean, like some of the things you're talking about with, you know, news for Jackie Stewart. I mean, I love progression, I love technology, I love, you know, I love making things better. So I think that, you know, every industry is going to go through I mean, you know, we don't we don't have time today, but we don't even need to go in.

00;24;26;28 - 00;24;47;00
Unknown
Know I right now. Oh my gosh, that's a whole different. That's a whole different thing. But would you trust an AI journalist or would you trust me? I trust you 100%, so I hope I'm safe. Yes. So we we we again, not just different industries that I'm a part of is, you know, we talk about that all the time.

00;24;47;00 - 00;25;07;25
Unknown
Really talk about is, is is AI going to replace you. Right. And there's there's too many things. You know obviously some industries that may happen but there's too many things that yeah, someone wants to talk to a human being. I'm 100%, you know, but I do believe it mean I do believe in AI and I do believe it.

00;25;07;25 - 00;25;30;22
Unknown
It helps people become more efficient. And I do believe there's a place for it. Totally. Yeah. But when you're talking about when you talk about news and news reporting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's so advanced I've even seen like, rip off newsfourjax reporters. I really oh my gosh. I was like, why don't we get a new reporter now?

00;25;30;22 - 00;25;59;25
Unknown
I was like, oh wow. Never mind. Oh no. I saw like the I was like, they almost got me. I started asking questions, which is important by the way. Everything you see online, you should be asking questions like, where do they get that information? Are they just making it up? You know, like, do you have a source? The thing that I don't I have not enjoyed recently, is some of the AI videos, that have been just in, you know, world conflicts and stuff like that, and they're not real, but they look real to me.

00;25;59;28 - 00;26;16;08
Unknown
Yeah, I think that's where I start to get a little bit like, stop doing that. So it is scary. You got to go local. Yeah. I mean, I'm we make fun of, you know, just, you know, the older generation getting scammed. And I'm looking at some of these AI videos and I'm like, wait, I might get oh, totally one.

00;26;16;10 - 00;26;34;29
Unknown
And actually, you know, you know, my specialty is consumer investigative reporting. Yeah, yeah. Let's go into that. So let's go into which is, which is, you know, been dominated by these AI scams. So many more people are getting scammed because it's just easier to do it, you know, like you should be able to like look out for a typo.

00;26;35;01 - 00;26;57;20
Unknown
You know, if I just use AI and I'm a scammer from, you know, foreign country, I don't need to have proper grammar. I can just ask AI to do it for me. And, you know, for so many people, it works. Yeah. You know, and don't ever pay people with gift cards. Apple gift cards. I mean, I feel like I say that every day, but that is like the number one Tesla.

00;26;57;22 - 00;27;25;17
Unknown
There you go. Hey, you know, my XL's down. Can you just run the walk? Yeah, it's an Apple gift card. The answer is no. People don't. Do not don't do that. It's never good. But it's really interesting. You know what I'm able to do? You know, investigative reporting is super rewarding because you can get results for people who have been unheard, unseen.

00;27;25;19 - 00;27;46;22
Unknown
You can launch investigations, you can change laws. And that's really at the heart of what I enjoy doing. That's your passion? You know, like, for example, there were, dozens of people who got scammed in Nocatee. And then we started reporting on it because how could someone take money and not give what their promise? You know, you took my money.

00;27;46;22 - 00;28;13;02
Unknown
You're not going to give me what I paid for. That's crazy. You know? And because of media attention, sometimes you can get things done. You know, we were able to get a state attorney investigation and, you know, criminal charges came away from that. And then in some of the smaller cases, you know, there was an elderly couple in Saint John's County who reached out to me, who had been fighting with their bank to get their money back.

00;28;13;04 - 00;28;38;18
Unknown
Gosh, I don't remember how much money it was, and it was enough money to be like, whoa, really? Yeah. I mean, I was crazy and, you know, through our reporting, they had been fighting for two years. It was a scam. Like a someone called pretending to be their bank. But the bank, like, verified the wire transfer when maybe they shouldn't have got it.

00;28;38;20 - 00;28;57;23
Unknown
Two years fighting to get their money back. We do a few reports. They got their money back by the end of the week. So that's like, really the power that's really of holding people accountable and, like, changing someone's life really is what, you have the capacity of doing. Yeah. And on and on the other side, it's education.

00;28;57;26 - 00;29;22;20
Unknown
You know, I have a series called Addressing Affordability, which I talk to you about a lot. I will call Jason and I will say, you got time. I need ten minutes. I'll be there in an hour. No. And that's something that's this. And I see that on the news. That's really cool. Is that, whenever, you know, whenever there's something happens and you, you know, connect with me, it's always like, hey, I want to report on this is my report.

00;29;22;24 - 00;29;45;15
Unknown
I need your opinion. Right? And so I give my honest opinion as an expert in the industry. Exactly. Yes. And so, you know, that's where I would say, you know, the credibility. Yeah. Of investigative reporting is there I mean that's that's huge. And then, you know, for this series that runs weekly, we are seeking out local voices like yourself.

00;29;45;15 - 00;30;07;00
Unknown
You know, I'm not going to go talk to, you know, a huge bank or mortgage guy. Like I want the local guy who understands like what's happening here in our community. That's what matters. Because, you know, we see national news headlines all the time, you know, are we going to buy these bonds or are you going to make mortgages 50 years rates going, you know.

00;30;07;07 - 00;30;32;03
Unknown
Yeah. And I feel like at some point you need to stop and say, like, I need someone to just explain this to me in the most plain English possible. And that's where people like you come in, in my relationships with people in this community come in because it's really a real estate focused, segment, but it's highlighting a huge problem, which is, you know, a lack of affordable housing.

00;30;32;06 - 00;30;49;16
Unknown
And, you know, we were just talking earlier when we started this podcast about how much has changed in 20, 25 years. I wish I could buy my house for what? My parents bought their house. Oh me too. Oh my God, someone take me in a time machine to when I was five years old so I could have bought a house.

00;30;49;19 - 00;31;18;23
Unknown
And it's it's so interesting too, because I always thought of, you know, Jacksonville being very affordable, comparative. And it still is and it still is. Yes, comparatively to other Florida cities. However, we're getting infiltrated when you. Growth is good though. I know you take some. Yeah. But but when we start really breaking down, like, here's how much you have to do, you know, for the median price house like it's a problem.

00;31;18;26 - 00;31;41;08
Unknown
Yeah. I mean like a majority of people cannot afford it. And like it's there's so many there's so many facets to this conversation. Is it a wage problem. Are we not building enough or are we building too much luxury housing. And that's kind of what we're exploring. We're just asking that question of what went wrong and what are the solutions to this problem?

00;31;41;11 - 00;32;01;00
Unknown
How are people helping people, you know, survive this affordability crisis? And even you yourself, you know, you talked about like, hey, you have a down payment, I can help you out. And I think that's really cool. Yeah, there's a lot there's a, you know, with, you know, a lot of different companies. I mean there's different there's different programs.

00;32;01;03 - 00;32;25;08
Unknown
Right. It's not the good news is that on a national level. Yeah. It's, it's something that is at the forefront. Yeah. You know totally at the forefront of all the agencies and everything like that. So you know there, there hopefully that there is more and more to come. But man we, you know locally we just try to figure out is there something that we could.

00;32;25;08 - 00;32;41;04
Unknown
Is there some type of product. Is there something, is there something we can cut here. Is there something we can do to get more people that are able to buy houses? That's the power of media though, because like, you have so many people who are just sitting on the sidelines like, oh, I could never afford a home, you know what I mean?

00;32;41;04 - 00;33;02;25
Unknown
When really you might be able to you know what I mean? It's not. It's not how it used to be, where you had to have 20% down and you had to jump through all these hoops. I mean, really, you just need the income and then you got to get creative from there. Well, yeah. And and also, I mean, just, you know, not just as far as, like the local piece of it, like.

00;33;02;25 - 00;33;23;14
Unknown
Yeah, not everyone might be able to qualify like, right this second, but it's worth to have a conversation to say how can I get there? Right, 100%? How can I how can I get there could be, you know, you know, could be credit, could be it could. And like I said, you know, my parents, lived in Mandarin.

00;33;23;14 - 00;33;44;10
Unknown
They bought in Mandarin and when I moved back here from Indiana, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just look for a house in Mandarin. And I was like, what? How much money do you want for this house that needs like the whole bathroom and kitchen? Gutted. Yeah. I can't do that, you know what I mean? And for me, you know, getting creative meant new construction.

00;33;44;14 - 00;34;02;10
Unknown
That's how I was able to find, you know, an affordable home. And that's, like, all relative. I get people who ask me all the time, what do you mean when you mean affordable housing? When you say that, like. And you give me a number. And really, I can't give you a number, right? It's really just relative to the person.

00;34;02;13 - 00;34;28;13
Unknown
And what affordability means is that you pay no more than 30% of your income on housing. If you pay more than that, you're considered cost burden and you're you're just paying too much, you know, and I can tell you firsthand that most people are nowhere near 30%, yes, 50% more like it. And, you know, on on the qualification side, you can get there.

00;34;28;16 - 00;34;50;12
Unknown
But are you, are you pouring every single penny you have or close to it? Are you pouring everything in and you can't live. Yeah. That's a that's not that that's not that's not good. But it is. You know, it's still the American dream 100% generational wealth. You know what I mean. Renting is not going to ever surpass owning a house.

00;34;50;15 - 00;35;09;24
Unknown
And that's what I hear when I talk to people. It's like, I just want to own a home. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's the goal. And so many people have given up on it just because of the state of our economy. But really, I mean, we are trying to just raise awareness of this issue and the things people are doing to help.

00;35;09;24 - 00;35;31;10
Unknown
And I do think change is on the horizon. We just saw the Senate last week, pass a bill that would crack down on corporate landlords. Yeah. Fantastic. You know what I mean? We've only been screaming that from the rooftop for years, but maybe that could help, you know, there's so many reasons why. You know, housing costs too much.

00;35;31;12 - 00;35;52;16
Unknown
But there could be a way to fix it. There is, there's some other legislature out there, that, you know, that hopefully will we'll pass as well to where, you know, some lending guidelines and things like that could get a little bit, you know, a little bit lower. Relax. Yeah. A little bit more relaxed. So, you know, it can help get more people in, in, in homes.

00;35;52;20 - 00;36;13;12
Unknown
Yeah. That would be awesome. And gosh, I saw something the other day that made my head spin and it was like, have you ever noticed, like on Halloween? Like there's not a lot of trick or treaters going around the neighborhood like there used to be? Because I remember, like I tell, like waves of people going trick or treating and now it's like slim to none.

00;36;13;17 - 00;36;30;13
Unknown
Yeah. They're like, that's because young people don't own homes anymore. Oh my goodness, it's all the older generation. And I was like, oh my gosh, I just blew my mind. But it's so true. I really get like hardly any trick or you're gonna have to remember that story for October. Yeah, I'll bring it back. Yeah, bring it back.

00;36;30;16 - 00;36;51;04
Unknown
And I'm like, what? You blew my mind. Like, totally like on a different tangent here. But like, for me. Yeah. Like we're trick or treating is like, we left home, right? We went and walked as far as we possibly could before we fell over. Yes. Now, you know, so make poor parents pull up in a car while we pull up in a car.

00;36;51;05 - 00;37;19;14
Unknown
The world is changing. Yeah, well, maybe they're living in an apartment complex. Oh, true. You know? Yeah, like you just don't know. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah, but like those little, like the little shifts in societal norms, like mean something. They do, they always do. Interesting. That's like the mind of the reporter reporting right now. So. Yeah. So tell me, tell me what what is, what does a typical day.

00;37;19;15 - 00;37;42;15
Unknown
Yeah. Look like an A in for a reporter. So we have an editorial meeting every morning. Okay. About 9:30 a.m., you come in as a reporter, you're expected to have three story pitches. So every day, every day, every day. And that's kind of shocking to some people. Like you come up with your own stories and you're like, yeah.

00;37;42;17 - 00;38;11;05
Unknown
So each reporter will have a B, like let's say someone focuses on Nassau County, someone focuses on Saint John's County, someone's focusing on city hall and city government. For me personally, it's consumer and investigative based news. So I'll come in like tomorrow. I have pitch to a couple stories, some of which deal with the Senate addressing affordable housing.

00;38;11;08 - 00;38;30;13
Unknown
Another one is a local company giving away a roof to someone in need. And then I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow. I can't tell you. I'll figure it out at 930. They'll tell me, okay, Tiffany, we like this story for you. Yeah, and maybe they don't even like any of the stories I pitch. And they're like, actually, this is what you're doing today.

00;38;30;13 - 00;38;49;05
Unknown
There is a press conference happening here. You're going to go do that, or they might give me some curveball story. You know, every day is different and you just don't know what to expect. And then from there, if I don't already have my interview set up, like, sometimes I'll give you a heads up like, hey, I'm working on a story tomorrow.

00;38;49;05 - 00;39;07;26
Unknown
Do you have some time that helps me understand whether or not I should pitch the story? Because do I have someone to interview to? I have an idea of how to, you know, make this story worthwhile and meaningful. So when you're looking so you're looking at story or you know, something and you're like, okay, I'm going to do this.

00;39;07;26 - 00;39;25;26
Unknown
Yeah. But even before you're pitching this, you might have to reach out to different people and say, hey, do we you know, can I like, what's your availability like tomorrow? Okay, I'm going to let you know in the morning, you know, and sometimes I have to shoot a disappointing text message like, I'm so sorry, I have to reschedule, but that's just the name of the game.

00;39;25;29 - 00;39;46;09
Unknown
You know, we're running out the door to get the interviews, to write our scripts, get them on social media, get them on television, get them online. And that's something we do every day. So typically I work with a photographer who's helping me do all that, which is great. I don't have to do it by myself anymore. Yeah. You know, and then, you know, say noon time.

00;39;46;09 - 00;40;04;16
Unknown
I have an interview with a real estate agent, and but I also want to talk to real people. We go out and just do, like, man on the street. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. That's cool. Let's just go to the park or let's just go. We can't really go to like, Chick-Fil-A or Publix will kick us off some public property we're going to.

00;40;04;16 - 00;40;22;29
Unknown
And then I'm trying to find like a character for my story, like, hey, a real person who's having a real problem trying to buy a home. I want to find them. Sometimes I'm able to, like, connect with them through people like you. You know, like, I'll ask you, do you know someone who's, like, struggling to buy a home or has been putting it off?

00;40;22;29 - 00;40;45;28
Unknown
You know, and that's how I'll go through things. But most days it's really chaotic. It's like, I need to be on TV. I need a face like it's just convenience, you know? So I want I want our viewers to kind of think about this because I think that, you know, when people, a lot of people go to a job, right?

00;40;45;28 - 00;41;09;22
Unknown
They go to their career, they go to the job and they don't they don't have to think through all that you do on a daily basis. Yes. And and then things change or whatever. Like people would freak out. Yeah. It's not for everybody. And then there are certainly people who think that's what they want to do. And then, you know, we'll see them quickly leave the industry.

00;41;09;24 - 00;41;27;19
Unknown
They're like, oh, this is way harder work than I thought it would be. But I mean, every day is different. You get to talk to new people, meet new people, go new places. You know? And that's the beauty of it. I get to meet so many incredible people, you know, like, I know a guy who 3D print stuff.

00;41;27;22 - 00;41;54;04
Unknown
Why? I don't know, is actually he 3D friends houses. He's trying to. I mean, there's just so many niche people I know in this community who are doing great work. And that's kind of where I'm valued as a journalist, you know, as being homegrown because these are my people, you know what I mean? We we've known each other for a little bit, but it's it's it's not I'm learning a lot today.

00;41;54;04 - 00;42;26;22
Unknown
Yes. And one thing that keeps coming across is like passion, passion, passion. You are so passionate about the news. You're so passionate about Jacksonville. Like do you do we love I love this place. We love. I really want to have you in Jacksonville. I mean, like I just care. And it's crazy because doing what I was doing in Indiana some years ago to like doing what I am today, like, I didn't think I'd be here, but it's so cool to have this opportunity.

00;42;26;24 - 00;42;49;28
Unknown
I'm so grateful. Are you kidding me? I mean, like, my grandma will call me if I'm not on the news at five. She's like, where are you off today? No. Oh, I sometimes not on TV. And that's funny, but it it's really cool. I mean, it's valuable and I care about so many people who live here. So I truly do feel like I get to tell stories that matter, and I do get to make a difference.

00;42;50;00 - 00;43;16;05
Unknown
So if you talk to any local news reporter, I feel like they'll tell you the same. That's a it's a really, it's a commendable. Yeah. Everyone has their niche, too. You know, we have some reporters who are all over breaking news, you know, shooting fire. I'm there or Swat situations send me, you know, so we kind of we'll just have people play to their strengths and do what they're good at.

00;43;16;08 - 00;43;43;01
Unknown
So so good. That goes that that goes for anything in business. Yeah, I truly believe like if someone if somebody if that is their their niche, if that's their passion. Right. Like let's triple down on that. It's it's it's a great business model. Yeah. And I think that, what's crazy is that everybody knows, like, their day could change on a whim.

00;43;43;02 - 00;44;00;05
Unknown
Yeah, even I know that. I mean, I could get a call right now. Yeah. And they could be like, you're done. We need you on TV. You know, the sky is falling. The city hall is on fire. You got to go, you know? And that's just. I'm prepared for it. I'm prepared to go stand there. That's you live shots.

00;44;00;05 - 00;44;28;29
Unknown
You know, it could happen. And God forbid it does happen. Oh my gosh. But it does. It's crazy. So so every every day is is new. And you welcome the challenge I really do I really do. And it's it's fun. It's different. It's it's just rewarding. Yeah, yeah. Is there any, is there anything that sticks out in the last couple of years or whatever?

00;44;29;01 - 00;44;58;27
Unknown
That would be something that you were like, oh my gosh, I did not want this to happen. Is there things like that? Like a story of like a story like bad news or what are you, bad news? I mean, I have the stories I cover. I don't want to happen. I mean, like, I wish there was an affordable housing crisis, but like in most recent memory, like the Jacksonville airport caught on fire.

00;44;58;27 - 00;45;24;06
Unknown
Do you remember that? Oh. Oh, I do, yes, I just it wasn't the airport. Excuse me, was the parking garage. I'm literally talking about how facts are important. Yes. The garage. It was the parking garage I have. I have a buddy that his car was in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So yes, I do remember. Yeah. I feel like that was a story where I was like on the way to a different story, and they called me and they were like, there are no anchors in the building.

00;45;24;06 - 00;45;48;01
Unknown
I'm a fill in anchor, by the way. I can do that. But my passion is reporting, and I'm like, we need you on the desk now. I'm like, okay, ten minutes. I'll be there. And then you're on the desk, like reporting in live, real time. Just calling people like experts. I remember I called, like, a structural engineer on the desk, you know, like, hey, look at this live picture with us.

00;45;48;03 - 00;46;12;20
Unknown
Can you tell us, you know, if you think there's any saving that garage or where it's going to crumble next? Wow. So that was something that was like, I didn't want to do it. And thinking, okay, thinking back, yeah, but I'm so glad it did you. And that was important. That was important news to share. People had their cars their your friend had their car there, you know, and we're probably wondering what is going on.

00;46;12;20 - 00;46;29;26
Unknown
And we were able to like maybe help. Well, just what you said there too is like a structural engineer, like what's what's what's going to happen next. Like, yeah, you know, it's my car done for. So I start shopping. Yeah. Really insurance what do I something like this. Well, that was one of the stories I had to do.

00;46;29;27 - 00;46;53;16
Unknown
Really? Believe it or not. Yup. Consumer news. Yeah. Because believe it or not, not everyone has full coverage. So what do you do if you don't have full coverage in that situation? It's not like you got in a car crash. Wasn't your fault. That's comprehensive. Yeah. I could, I could talk all day. I feel like I have to become an expert in a different thing every day, so.

00;46;53;17 - 00;47;12;28
Unknown
Well, that's that's really remarkable. I mean, that's that's tough, but I rely on people. I rely on the experts, though. Yeah, you know what I mean. And of course, I'm checking facts and verifying things. But like you do learn along the way, you learn a little bit. Yeah. I know a little bit about insurance, home insurance concerns I know, I know, you care.

00;47;13;05 - 00;47;37;18
Unknown
I, I'm sure it's a little bit more than a little. It's a little bit it's a little bit of everything. It's so interesting. So you know like I feel like most people don't understand what a journalist does. Yeah. So like to any HR manager, hiring manager out there, if a journalist, a former journalist, is applying to a job, you should probably give them a chance because you're probably insanely fast and good at what they do.

00;47;37;18 - 00;47;53;00
Unknown
Some of the kit that was just from a, you know, from a hiring perspective. Yeah, some of the characteristics you're talking about. Right. Like those are yeah, those are awesome. There's a lot of, people I know who've left the news business to kind of like, slow down, like, hey, I don't want to be running and got in every day.

00;47;53;00 - 00;48;15;19
Unknown
Maybe I want to work from home. Or maybe I just want, like, a little bit easier of a lifestyle where I can just expect to sit at a desk all day and they'll be like, God, it's so boring. Yeah. And then eventually they'll come back, you know, like, yeah, my manager's telling me I'm doing things too fast, but I'm on a different speed.

00;48;15;20 - 00;48;42;21
Unknown
Yeah, but that's what we're asked to do every single day. Yeah. You know, and it could just be like a question in the morning meeting like, well, you know, the city of Jacksonville said this last week, why don't we ask this question? And then it's just an like an abstract question that we're like trying to answer to, just like provide real enterprise journalism to people, because maybe you're thinking that question at home.

00;48;42;24 - 00;49;02;24
Unknown
And we rely so much on news tips, by the way, I would say like 75% of my stories are news tips, like people who write in for help or say, like, I have this. Oh, can you help me? And I feel like slowly, like more and more like people aren't doing that or aren't writing their thoughts in to the news channel.

00;49;02;24 - 00;49;25;07
Unknown
Like we have a question about something that's going on in city government or even at the state level, like, why aren't we doing this? Just ask you if we can. Like, that's a good maybe we can help. You know, sometimes we don't think of everything that's a good that's a good point. The yeah, you need people to speak up and and then yeah, if you're having a problem like why not reach out to your local news channel.

00;49;25;10 - 00;49;42;06
Unknown
And by the way, you do have to be on camera. That is very disappointing for a lot of people when they write the TV station for help. And I'm like, okay, great. Are you comfortable with an on camera interview? And they're like, cameras. What? No.

00;49;42;09 - 00;50;01;15
Unknown
No. I'm like, well, I don't know if I can help you. Yeah. I mean, that's but that part. No, that's the integrity part. Like it? Yeah. As a viewer like, you know, a story. Story with a person. Yeah. The person saying it, it's a visual medium. Yep. So interesting. There's so much that goes on in a local newsroom.

00;50;01;15 - 00;50;32;04
Unknown
I mean, we could talk all day. We could talk all day. So can we. You've been absolutely is like, this is so interesting. Us people that aren't on the news don't understand any anything that goes on. So. Dad. But but but you do so. But just having worked with you on some different stories and things like that, like I can see how, you know, impactful you are.

00;50;32;06 - 00;50;50;07
Unknown
Yeah. You're impactful and it that means a lot and it comes from your passion. Yeah. That means a lot. Yeah. It comes from your passion. And I'm so glad that, you know, you were able to, you know, do your stint in South Bend and then get back to us here in Jacksonville. So I didn't like the snow, Jason I don't I don't either I miss the beach.

00;50;50;07 - 00;51;13;05
Unknown
Yeah I mean the lake. It's not the beach. It's not they try to tell you it's like a beach you talking about like the one in Chicago. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a beach frozen like half the year. Yeah. Anyway, so it's great. Let's go. Let's go light here. Okay. Okay. So, because you are a native Jacksonville person, this this one's going to resonate.

00;51;13;05 - 00;51;37;27
Unknown
What is what are some of your favorite restaurants. Oh my God what a question I love Picasso's on. Oh hey. Oh good. Have you ever had that. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Hannah Yori is my like die. I will drive anywhere from across any end of the city to get there. Hibachi. It's on Beach Boulevard. Okay. A little mom and pop shop cooking hibachi.

00;51;37;29 - 00;52;02;12
Unknown
Wow. So good. I'm like, I'm. I'm ready to go now. I just after you. Oh, yeah. Let's get in the car. Gosh, there's so many good ones. I so our stations in San Marco. Yeah. So we're, like, in San Marco a lot. I love the olive tree. Mediterranean. Yeah. I'm, like, trying to shout out the local mom and pops, and I know totally.

00;52;02;14 - 00;52;28;24
Unknown
Yeah, we do the same, like I. Yeah, I think that it's important to. Yeah support support local I know it's juicy crab local because that's amazing. I don't know I mean they have a couple locations but so good. What do you, what do you, what do you do for fun? Wow, what a question. So I'm I'm likely very boring to most people.

00;52;28;26 - 00;52;48;02
Unknown
Your job is not boring. So that's why I like my decompression time. Is usually like, you know, sometimes you get off work and you want to go play pickleball or go on a hike, or. I don't know what people do. Let me go. Let me go. Run on the beach. Pickleball is popular. I'm not, I'm not. Yeah, I will probably crack open a book.

00;52;48;04 - 00;53;08;21
Unknown
I'll either garden, walk my dogs. I love cooking. My family actually owned a middle eastern restaurant here in Jackson. Oh, for like 20 years. So cooking is like a big part of my identity. That was my first job where I learned to talk to people. And it's still open, by the way, to a cafe, but that's, that's on Mill Road, like toward state.

00;53;08;21 - 00;53;29;08
Unknown
You. But my family no longer owns it. But anyway, I love cooking. That's like a stress reliever. I do love looking for shark teeth. Shark teeth? Yeah, I've got a big jar of them at home. Was, like, so therapeutic to go. Probably got a huge jar at home. I do, yeah, because I've been doing it, like, all my life.

00;53;29;09 - 00;53;48;16
Unknown
That's what I'm thinking. Like it's a it's kind of sucks right now. Like after they did the dredging on the beach. But you know, if you have a good idea, you can still find the stuff. And other than that, I really like to eat and shop local. Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm a I'm, I'm definitely a a food foodie foodie I love food.

00;53;48;23 - 00;54;13;01
Unknown
I like that question. By the way, what is your favorite restaurant in Jacksonville? My favorite restaurant in Jacksonville, is Chophouse 13. I love that we we just went there for my anniversary. Nice. It was insane. I it's it's the most consistent steakhouse. Yeah. And I've got other stuff for like steak, but. Well, the atmosphere I love it.

00;54;13;01 - 00;54;30;18
Unknown
Yeah. And they open one in Nocatee. I haven't been to that one. I haven't been there. But. Yeah. Food wise. Wow. That's my that's my spot. Have you been to Cal for chop House? I have, oh, I love that one too. You said Picasso's the B. Picasso's is amazing. Yeah, that's a hit. And again, it's. Yeah. Mom and pop.

00;54;30;21 - 00;54;35;05
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's a pizza. Pasta. Yes.

00;54;35;11 - 00;54;59;21
Unknown
here's a question. Yeah, let's let's consider that that it's not investigative reporting or whatever. But, if you were to cover one news story. Right. What would be like your ultimate like I want to cover this news story, I would want to go out with, oh search and track two sharks off the coast.

00;54;59;23 - 00;55;21;14
Unknown
Wow. That's like crazy. But I would love to do that. Goes into the shark teeth. Okay. Yes it does. Any opportunity to go to the zoo, by the way, I'm there. I just love animals. I have three dogs. What? What kind of dogs? You. I've got a, I've got a Pomeranian, and I've got an Australian shepherd poodle and a cocker spaniel poodle.

00;55;21;14 - 00;55;42;10
Unknown
So I have two. Two doodles. Yeah. And a Pomeranian, which all of them are so high maintenance and, like, they're all boys, but they're so prissy, and, like, like, many of them won't go outside if it's raining. Okay. I think their paws cannot get wet. God forbid. Like, these are not like these are not dogs. You're taken on runs.

00;55;42;10 - 00;56;01;07
Unknown
Yeah, I guess I love that I get you. We have to do those at home as well. Okay? Yeah, I get it. Paws don't like to get it. God, they're so special. Yeah, yeah, but, God, I love them. That's why I'm saying I'm, like, most of my time at home spent with them, not with those guys. Well, it's been fun.

00;56;01;09 - 00;56;20;10
Unknown
It hasn't been a pleasure. Thank you so much. So I just wanted to say, you know, I've got to learn a little bit more about you. And, you know, news four. Jax, is lucky to have you. I appreciate that you do an amazing job. Watch what you do, and and you're just you're so passionate about it.

00;56;20;10 - 00;56;42;00
Unknown
And so we're we're so happy that you're part of Jacksonville. And, hopefully you'll be here forever. I hope so. Hopefully the housing gets a little cheaper. Yes. Also, if you have a news tip, you can DM me Instagram, Facebook, email, if that's your thing. Yeah. Reach out. I'm your girl. Awesome. I can probably help. All right.

00;56;42;02 - 00;56;44;28
Unknown
Perfect. Thanks, Tiffany. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Yep.

00;56;45;06 - 00;56;59;10
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